Chamakh,Koscielny & Squillaci! Decent players but not GREAT!

Having now played 10 games in total this season its clear to me that our 3 new signings this summer have without doubt filled the holes of players who have moved on BUT haven’t improved us a great deal.

Let me ask you something, Have the 3 new signings turned us from a top 4 side into a league title winning side?.. Well after losing our last 2 games and only 1pt out of our last 9pt the answer is clearly not.

So whats my opinion on the 3 new signings

Laurent Koscielny : Signed for a reported sum of £8.45m, MORE then what Spurs had paid for Rafael van der Vaart. Lets just say that he has had a poor start, Roasted by El Hadji Diouf and with mistakes vs WBA & Bolton and less then impressive last week up against Drogba. its hard to see WHY Arsenal paid so much money for a lightweight CB who has never played at this level and who looks and french 2nd division player. I know people are going to say its his first season in English football and he needs time? Well look at Thomas Vermaelen and the impact he had last season. A player with potential , not exactly a Keown or a Adams is he…

Marouane Chamakh : Signed on a free, don’t get me wrong I feel Chamakh has added something to our team and with Wenger wanted to stick with this 4/5/1 a player like Chamakh upfront is perfect. But he is not a Drogba or a player who will score a solo wonder goal. He is nothing more then a decent target man who is good in the air but will miss loads of chances. And as Sunday vs the Chavs showed, in tight games vs very good teams you cant afford to miss chances. Is he the type of player thats going to score 20/30 goals a season? NO! is he better then what he had? YES..A good player but not exactly Henry or Bergkamp. But out of the 3 he has been our best signing this summer

Sébastien Squillaci : Signed in a deal worth €4m, a player who can do a job but is clearly not the big powerful CB we needed to deal with the likes of Drogba. Im happy we signed him as we were very short of numbers at the back, but is he the answer? NO. He is a Second choice french player with a long injury record, not exactly a Gallas or a Sol Campbell.

So a summary of our Transfer dealings.. None of these guys are bad players but we are no better then last season??

Whats your views on this?

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  1. Mr. Arsenal says:

    *SIGH!!!* I thought people have realized we don’t buy GREAT! players… We make them!

    I’m starting to believe this site has been made-up by a bunch of high school kids. Where have you been for the last decade and a bit. “The Wenger Era”

    You don’t judge players in the first couple of games, ‘King Henry 14′ is a GREAT! example for that…

  2. goonerluke says:

    Koscielny – Class player and is clearly the second best CB after Vermaelen. The mistakes you bring up are typical of a defender coming into the EPL from a less physical league. Looks like a top signing to me.

    Chamakh – What EPL team brought in a better striker over the summer…? He’s already scored/caused vitally important goals, has stayed available for selection and always works hard for the team. Just what the Arse-Doctor ordered, a striker who can stay fit (touch wood).

    Squillaci – 3rd/4th choice cover. If he’s starting consistently we are in trouble but certainly an upgrade on Silvestre and necessary to make up numbers.

  3. fan says:

    Exactly right on the ball.Remember Mr wengar has only ever won the premier league once without the orignal arsenal back four and goalkeeper, that he luckily inherited.Wengar is so obviously in denial regarding this present team!!!

  4. athlon29 says:

    Probably, but it’s a likeable team and for me, it’s the most important. All of them want to improve, both individually and for the team. And this team do have the potential to win the championship.

  5. defender2 says:

    bring back george graham as a defensive coach then we will start winning things again

  6. sparker says:

    we do not need world class players to win laurels………..we need a a very good team. Remember the England World cup winning squad of 1966.

  7. Mr Norway says:

    Totally agree, none of them has set the premier league alight have they?. In fact i dont think they are better than the players they replaced. Eduardo was a decent striker but chamakh gives us a differnt dimension to the team. So I would prefer Chamakh, but in defence losing Campbell and Gallas is a big loss. Neither Squillaci or Koscielny are better players than the ones we lost (of course both Campbell an Gallas have been weak for their new teams, but perhaps they would have been better staying put). It was a pity we diden’t sign Hangeland, as a norwegian I have been following him for 10 years. He was fantastic when he played in Norway and in Denmark. For Fulham he has been massive, a leader and a fantastic defender. Would have loved him playing for the gunners. But perhaps our new players will be good signings afterall, but I think signing a player with PL experience would take less time to adjust.

  8. shrink says:

    I think what sparker needs is a BRAIN

  9. Kofi says:

    Well at least they are better on the ball than John Terry and Jamie Carragher

  10. silentstan says:

    its 10 games into their first season. give them a bloody chance mate

  11. toilet says:

    come on stan admit it they are crap

  12. rellends says:

    who should we /could we have bought? sometimes i play championship manager too and sometimes i cheat and get utd to sell rooney to arsenal for a tenner. its easy to do you just take over utd and call yourself mr idiot and release rooney on a free and he ends up at arsenal. im 40 now and even though we won the double when i was 1 i stll waited almost 20 years for us to win the championship again. get some perspective because i remember the bad old days when we bought th likes of mcgoldrick and and linighan (yes i know we won the fa cup with him) for a fiver. hang on! ive got almost £30m burning a hole in my pocket so maybe we should go out and buy veron.

    get some perspective please.

  13. Albert says:

    Sorry Athlon29 but you are badly mistaken about this teams chances of winning the league.They might play pretty football but are always outmuscled by physically powerful teams. I agree that George Graham should be brought back as a defensive coach. Chamakh is the only decent player out of the 3 recent signings. The 2 CB’s are out of their depth. Once again Mr Wenger fails miserably in his defensive signings. This man has no idea about defensive play,look at his goalkeepers over the last few years! I have been following Arsenal for 40yrs and this present defence is very bad! There is no chance of winning the league with that defence and its time that people realised that Wenger is one of the most stubborn men around. His belief in this team will not come to fruition and he will never change as regards buying established players that can perform in the league.

  14. Davi says:

    Why is it that everyone always says it takes a anywhere between a few months and a full season to adapt to the PL, but at the same time are so quick to pass judgement judge?
    Chamakh has been great for us, his presence up front has been great, and wenger will make him even better. Hes physically and technically superb, he just needs to add more goals to his game.
    Koscielny looks like a world class centre back in the making to me. He is so quick to spot danger and make challenges. A couple of lapses are nothing to worry about, this is a big step up for him.
    Squillaci is a very talented and experienced defender, but perhaps hasnt been as good as expected so far. Nonetheless I think it is very early to write him off.

  15. Tashobya Wazaarwa says:

    i totally agree with the fact that these players are good are but cant change our season or win the champions league, i just we could sell carlos vela, denilison and rosicky add up the money and buy aproper striker to help chamaka like muller or agood winger who can score like ribery

  16. Craigie says:

    Firstly, Koscielny is not up to the pace of the English game. He’s not hopeless but he’s been naive and he needs time to adjust. He looks like he can be a great on the floor, not so sure about in the air. He’s still semi-young for a centre back and will improve, hopefully quickly.

    Chamakh is not 100% adjusted. He has a hard job, because not only does he have to adjust to the English game but he has to adjust to the ARSENAL game. He has to be ready to watch runs and make runs that he wouldn’t be expected to make in other teams. It’s a big ask to just get a player to be the Arsenal main striker and expect him to have it perfected in 2 months. He doesn’t have the rapport with the main midfielder (Cesc) like he did with Gourcuff. We knew he wasn’t a goalscorer and we should blame the rest of the team for not getting the goals.

    I do think he is in the wrong team at the moment. He needs to be in a team with goals around him. Goals from Fabregas and either pace or genius from Theo or Robin on the wing. Right now the team around him isn’t as good as it can be and he doesn’t get good crossing service from the fullbacks that he’d get at any other team, so his talents aren’t being utilised right now.

    I honestly don’t think we can’t judge Chamakh until we see him in front of Cesc. His job is to make play and make space for the goalscorers in the team. Imagine a front 4 of:

    Arshavin Chamakh Robin
    Cesc

    I think this will be our first team eventually, Robin and Chamakh switching places throughout.

    Chamakh is very important, mainly because he has one thing our team lacks and that is WORK RATE. Watch any game with Arshavin and Chamakh in, Chamakh does all Arshavin’s tracking back and he works hard for 90 minutes.

    Squillaci I’m not impressed with. He’s a very good centre back, I don’t see why he’s being dodgy now for Arsenal. He should be better than he is. He should be coming in as the solid experienced one, the way he gave the ball back the other week showed stupidity that experience should have fixed.

  17. hayzoose says:

    Chrisr alive on a bike, rellends is spot on. Who do you think we could’ve bought? If you’re one of the mob who thinks we should just go out and spunk our money away go and supposrt chavski and the scum. Chavs can buy ‘cos their benefactor got lucky with natural resources rights aand that he’s no threat to putin. Scum buy ‘cos their parent co sees them as an investment ready to be pimped to the highest bidder when the time is right. Probably when they ground share with the hammers. Albert, you’re talking out your arse, it’s always easier to predict doo mthan it is to get behind the team. Why don’t you and the rest of the anti arsene brigade protest outside the grove or unfurl a banner voicing your opinions during the match. None of you ever have the balls to do anything but moan on poxy sites like this. ‘arsenal action’? ‘arsehole inaction’ more like.

  18. Albert says:

    We dont need another striker its 2 good center backs&a strong midfielder that we need&a top goalkeeper! Why wont people see whats wrong with this team. Its no use beating mid table teams you need to beat Man U&Chelsea and then the league is within reach. Its going to be a very tough game tomorrow against Brum and they will get stuck in to Arsenal so this is another big test for the team. Getting back to the present CB’s if their good enough they shouldnt take 2 months to settle in to the team. I really hope that Thomas Vermalen is fit soon because he is a class act and badly needed. Finally i hope that Wenger sees sence and buys the players that are badly needed in January.

  19. odili clems says:

    They are going to prove you wrong as the season unfolds.

  20. true fan says:

    idi another new arsenal supporter who knows sod all about the game, just follows arsenal blindly twat

  21. spudsulike says:

    hayzooze how long have you supported arsenal for? three weeks I suspect if your comments are anything to go by. You obviously know F-all about football thats why I think you should go and support the spuds with your limited knowledge on football you would fit in really well!!!!

  22. true fan, proper tw4t says:

    True fan, what a mug you are. Going to the game tomorrow? I am, see you there, looking forwar to your ‘wenger out!’ chants and even more as you get seven shades knocked out of you by your neighbours.

  23. Domhuaille MacMathghamhna says:

    Wake up looney gooners….none of these 3 have played with our best team yet! Chamakh will really shine when he gets to consistently play alongside Cesc,Theo,Nick,RVP and Arshavin( in form). The new centrebacks have been under a lot of pressure in the absence of Vermaelen and Clichy’s poor form and with a flaphandski or All-maniac in nets. Once Cesc is back, Song and Diaby playing proper disciplined defensive Football and some decent keeping on a consistent basis, Arsenal will win on a regular basis against all opponents. Had RVP,Walcott, Cesc and Nick been available against Chelsea and chamakh been more clinical, it would have been a very different result.

    Kos and Chamakh have been getting better each match, Squillaci will gradually adapt to the faster paced, more brutal EPL game and with Cesc running the midfield alongside Wilshere and Song, it will be a better season that ever expected.

  24. Jose Reyes says:

    chamakh has been a great signing and has improved our front line greatly. however koscienly and squillaci our no better than silvestre or gallas. both of our new defenders have been far too average so far this year

  25. true dan says:

    poster at 8.02pm, you’re the one who knows FA about football, moron. If you think supporting AFC is all about proclaiming to the disaffected Gooners who are pleased everytime we lose because it validates their prejudices – they’d shout, ”insight!” – then you’re a bigger twat than the chap you accused of being the same. Oh, and Arsene KNOWS!

  26. TERRYJA210 says:

    Koscielny laughing with Drogba at the end of the Chelsea game says it all for me!!
    Winners are pissed off when they loose!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. bilbelte says:

    Come on man, they are not vermaelen or henry, we know that. They were exeptional players, but henry did not come as the gem he was when he left us. The others chuckled when he first came, he could not hit the goal at all, it’s reported that hr was the source of great chuckles among the other players in training. Dont get me wrong, I do not believe that chamack will be a greater striker than henry, but that is not the point, he is meant to be someone to play the ball off. He is supposed to draw the defenders of and give the ball to someone else, in a better position, we have changed our gameplay. He aint supposed to produce 20+ goals, he is meant to assist 30+ goals. When it comes to ko-whatshisname, he is a good buy, reads the game very good, tackles extremely well, shows more muscels than he posesses, and when he gains more, HE WILL BECOME KING OF THE CASTLE. The other dude with a name we cannot type is a good backup. Wenger did good, although we would prefer that he paid £20 millions for the best in the biz, but that is money we don’t have, or the board don’t want to part with.

  28. AmZ says:

    first 2 commnts by mr.gooner and goonerluke is all is there 2 say,we MAKE them TOP CLASS and its only about time,i think Marouane is as good CF as any out there on his day,fukn loveeee the guy for the shifts he puts in for the team,we can do with few like him,i have been watchn him ever since we wanted him last year and the guy is simply a top top player,he lacks speed but he still have enough 4 me,as for laurent i honestly think with Verma along side him they can be as good cb pair as ANY in pl,u just pointing out their nagativz so far,hw bout his debut v liverpool and torres???oh wait idnt think ive read that on the article,and finally ask your self who would u rather have Sébastien Squillaci or a 16 yrz old cb playing them big games 4 us????so as a cover and exprnce he brings ill take him anyyyy day than a youngster on the back coz thats the last thing we need now,more kids.
    team is perfect just 1 missing peace of the puzzle,a BIG,TOUGH DM thats allll we need,someone who gets stuck in and show them suckers who rules and runs the md,MELO or Sissoko is all we need.

  29. Arsene Wenger says:

    The author is a mug.I manage Arsenal,the way I want it to be.I am planning to manage the French team after a few years.I want my gay partner Diaby to develop into a half decent player.When we finish below Spuds in a couple of years time,I will still have fans chanting my name.

  30. Drew10 says:

    Slagging off our new signings eh? Sigh! Give them a chance I am sure that had everyone been fit they would have had to bed in more slowly. Saying kos performance us rubbish because he didn’t do well against dogpoo is just daft how many world class defenders have been made to look crap by him?

    Personally I think we should be talking about people being allowed to write articles without a basic understanding of the language!

  31. Goonerpower says:

    Hmmm rubbish, there not class……yet barring squill there is age for improvement. Who knows (not you) they might turn class. Drogba was shit for the first few seasons, then started being the force when he was older? (in the prem)

  32. Big daddy p says:

    I believe if give chamakh a chance to settle he will come to be a cracking frontman

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