Wenger “2nd place is a success “

Like clockwork Arsene Wenger has launched a passionate defence of his 6th wasteful season team.

I say like clockwork because this is a common message from our manager as we close towards the end of the season. How many times has Wenger said this, last season he came out with the classic, “I would rather finish 4th then win the FA cup”.

This is becoming very boring now from Wenger and to me this proves how out of touch he is with the fans. It also proves to me why the players are not motivated to win anything. How can you be when your manager comes out and says that finishing in 2nd place is a success?

Today Wenger said

“Personally, I am very proud of the attitude, the behaviour and the quality of our season,” said the Arsenal boss.

“I will defend that until the end, it is important that we finish as well as we can and the quality of the team is linked with the mental attitude that we have and how much you are ready to fight until the end of the season.

“The rest, I am only very proud of what this team has done. People’s opinion is people’s opinion and we have to accept that in our game.

“As long as you are second in the league, I am ready to sign for the next 20 years and stand up for that.

“If there is a team that is better than us, we have to accept it. I believe we do not have to be ashamed at the moment of what we have done.

“Rather, I have to be proud because if I took statements from all the people here at the start of the season we were not even in the top five. Now it is a scandal we are second.

“We have to accept it. People can change their minds but we have to fight. That makes a top-level sportsman.

“It doesn’t hurt me personally but it bothers me that the players do not get the recognition for what they have put in since the start of the season.

“You do not go in the Carling Cup Final or the FA Cup quarter-final or losing in the Champions League to Barcelona giving absolutely everything – and are the victim of some unbelievable decisions – you do not do that by not fighting every day.

“This team is 23. When we played against Barcelona, they were 27 and a half. It is time people understand what our job is about. It is important we realise this team is absolutely amazing for what they do at their age. One day people will understand that.”

The average age of Arsenal’s team that lost at Barcelona was actually just under 25, but Wenger played up his team’s youthful composition and hailed their achievements.

He said: “How old is Wilshere? It looks like in England you cannot play without him. How old is Fabregas? How old is Nasri? We have to trust these players and not listen to some opinions of people who have not worked in football. Do you know how much work is behind a team like that? How much mental strength is behind a team like that? Success in any job is to do the maximum with your talent.”

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  1. Maciek

    April 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Same c**p all over again. I fear that he will continue his experiment we will suffer for many more years.

    So Diaby, Almunia and Denilson will be with us as well.

    Great. The man, who once I have admired has become deluded and arrogant and just can’t see that our players are mentally weak and not good enough.

    Funny, that many Arsenal fans still think that he is the best man for the job.

    “there aren’t managers available who can replace Wenger”. Really?

    -Villas Boas from Porto( keep a close eye on him, cos he is class),
    – Gauardiola,
    – Even Owen Coyle

    6 barren years and I fear that we haven’t even started.

    Best wishes guys, have a nice weekend, even though we will probably lose against Blackpool.

  2. arsenal4ever

    April 8, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    always same excuse and this fukking idiot gets 7 mill p year. Man I hate him and I really loved him in the past. He is destroying AFC!!!

  3. samwise

    April 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    there i was thinking from what he said the other week he was completely re-evaluating his project yoof. and serisouly questioning some of these pampered players, fully prepared to wield the axe.
    Despite the past 5-6 years of winning nothing i would still maintain some respect for this man and give him another chance (more than one season) IF he accepts his ‘project yoof’ has failed and says enough is enough with enough of some of these pampered babies and be prepared to get his cheque book out on players of proven quality, (real) mental strength and experience. but no….

  4. Jaygooner

    April 8, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    For sure, second is NEVER enough. However, Tottenham, Villa, Everton, Newcastle and Sunderland fans would be conducting open top bus celebrations for getting to fourth, never mind second. Blackpool will be switching on the lights early if they even survive the drop. Concentrate on what Wenger says. The team is only 23, maximum room for improvement. One day, all Arsenal fans will look back and say “wow, that guy was a genius”. If you shaft Wenger now and dump him, the trophy drought will definitely continue.

  5. roger

    April 8, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    It’s not surprising for at least the first 3 years of the emirates AW was asked to balance the books FACT..and he done that brilliantly by keeping us in the top 4..now i wish more money was spent on top players though if we were to finish 2nd thats not exactly failure

  6. dave b

    April 8, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Wenger is so out of touch it’s frightening. The man never fails to talk the same old shite every season. For f*** sake Wenger, give us a break. Stop treating everyone of us as “wet behind the ears” kids. Come out and speak the truth for a change. Defending one or two individual poor performances is all well and good, but trying to defend poor team performance after poor team performance is just too much. If you treated us long suffering fans with an ounce of the dignity you treat your players with, we’d respect you far more.

  7. Andy Mack

    April 8, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    2nd isn’t a success but it certainly isn’t a failure either.
    The most depressing thing is that Citeh will be a much stronger challenger next year andI doubt the Chavs will keep all the grandads in their team so they’ll probably be stronger, so we’ll have to play much better just to tread water……

  8. Philbet

    April 8, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    I am amazed how many Arsenal fans read an Arsenal blog then want to badmouth the players and managers,Football fans have NO divune right to win anything, Wenger is indeed right 2nd and solvent is success, Most clubs can only dream of 2nd, Just because the team you support is Arsenal does not mean the are sure to win anything, this season Arsenal were 10/1 to win the league in August, that means in the bookmakers opinion (and its usully accurate),they would win one season in elevan,So this year, might not be that one in elevan,
    So called supporters may have to wait some more years before we win the EPL, You could maybe go and ask a Tottenham fan how long they expect to wait !!!

  9. besitzer

    April 8, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Wenger is right when defining success: doing the maximum with your talent. Arsenal has a young talented team, and 2nd place is certainly not a failure. 1st place is always the best but if second place is the best you can achieve, then it is still a success.

  10. gunner4life

    April 8, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Like I said 2nd has nothing to show for. Unacceptable.
    Need to change his ways and be honest with the fans. He needs to rething his project, get a major overhaul of the squad, get experience, big burly English steel in the team and a good balance between defence and offence.

    For starters buy Given, Baines, Cahill, Matuidi, Melo, Hazard, Vertoghen, Hazard, Hulk and Falcao or Benzema.

    Bring defencive coaches Keown and Adams………thank you Pat Rice
    Give Wenger one year and if nothing happens then go for the Porto Coach (sign him for 6 years)

  11. brdgunner

    April 8, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Arsene has and is fantastic for Arsenal Football Club

  12. admin

    April 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    Fantastic at making a profit yes..

  13. Obisesan akin

    April 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    U are such a 4ucking old fool wenger,am sure we will laugh at u last b’coz 1day God in his mercy wil save us 4rm ur hand.U self-centred fellow Mad wenger.

  14. Tappy

    April 8, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Woah, steady everyone. We and Wenger are assuming we will finish second. The way things are going people, we will finish 4th, just…. Is this success?

  15. Romford Pele

    April 8, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    I am more in the “Arsene Knows Best” rather than the “Wenger Out” camp but I am starting to lose faith. Terrible results and performances home and away against Newcastle and West Brom and at home to Sunderland and Blackburn need some explanation. We stumbled through the FA cup rounds against lower league opposition, messed up a comfortable champions league group and have looked unconvincing all season. This team simply cannot get up for the contest every week unless its top class opposition and that is a chronic problem. The reason why Arsene keeps going on about mental strength is because that is precisely what this team lacks. Still he will stay loyal to his contract and we are stuck with each other until 2014 so we can only hope he is right about this ugly duckling turning into a swan. I cant see it.

  16. Gavin

    April 8, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    This attitude is exactly what has been bread into the club in the last few years, Second place is NOT a success, We have gifted the PL to an average ManUre side and havn’t even pushed them for it. How can Wenger be proud of this, His stubborness has already cost of us trophies, He does not want to admit he was wrong about certain players and while he continues with his “project”, Our club is being hurt by it. This is Arsenal FC not Arsene FC.

  17. Marc

    April 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I will NEVER accept 2nd is a success …. 2nd Is just the best of the losers … Arsenal should aspire to be better than that or we may as well all give up now .. What’s next? Not getting relegated is a success?????

  18. kzyone

    April 8, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    hell with you Mr Wenger! You are crazy! You’ve started your rubbish statement.

  19. Danish Gooner

    April 8, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Coming second for one of the most prestigious clubs in world football,it is time to get your coat Mr.Wenger.

  20. Danish Gooner

    April 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    His own lazy ambitions breeds lazy unambitious players and that is what we have seen for six seasons now,they will always be pampered even though they play rubbish football.

  21. jul

    April 8, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    failure is aiming a quadriple at the beginning of the season and not being able to get that.Arsene has failed and he lies because he said he was aiming at 4 trophies.

  22. jul

    April 8, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    failure is aiming at a quadriple at the beginning and settling at nothing. Arsene has failed.

  23. Angrygunner

    April 8, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    AW has had more than enough time to put together his dream team. What you’re seeing is the best outcome he could deliver. The rest is for the fans to decide.
    But frankly, as long as he feels re-assured that the club owners are behind him, he does n’t give a shit about what the fans want!

    My take? The guy is over-rated. These days his decision making is almost quixotic, and a joke, to say the least.
    Good luck to those of you who think he’s still the best man for the job. Somehow, I’ve the feeling that we may end up as a mid-table team. It’s only a matter of time. The writing is on the wall.

  24. GoonerDave

    April 9, 2011 at 1:16 am

    I cant believe nobody is mentioning the part about “success is doing the best you can with the talent available” because to me, this is a very telling statement. Lets face it – when we were at Highbury, Wenger spent a fair bit of money, so the spin that paints him as a scrooge is unfounded. I think this quote proves there was never substantial money available following the stadium move. How could there have been money available? The Emirates cost a fortune, and then the recession hit! It would be naive of fans to imagine how we could have any proper funds available.
    Thats not to say it couldnt have been handled more openly, but of course admission of this fact would have unsettled our best players and invited derisory bids for them too…as it is, we had to sell players just to balance the books.
    That said, the lack of determination and belief on the pitch is down to the manager, they are his players and he must motivate them. Thats his job.
    I know Arsene has flaws, I know our squad has weaknesses. But Id love to see AW given some proper money in the Summer for a change, because this team is so close its agonizing!
    Call me daft, but we are one good weekend of results from being back in it, and Im going to believe we can do it even if it seems impossible.
    Because if we dont believe, what hope have the players got?

  25. Duhduh

    April 9, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    You can believe al you want, it wont make a difference if the players are incompetent fools

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