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For me, I think Arsene should take some lesson from Sir Alex. I dont know how a team can stick to a 4-5-1 formation the whole year. You should be a tactician and adapt your team to the formation of your opponents. Yesterday Ferguson gave a masterclass in changing his formation at half time when his team was 2-0 down. But if that was Wenger, he would have persisted with that stupid formation that does not work. God Wenger, please go and play Fifa and Pro Evolution Soccer to get your tactics right!!!!
Wenger out!! Its hard to take all these losses! When u can along with everybody else see where we’ve been goin wrong and its not corrected!!
Plus its become painfully obvious 2 me that wenger doesn’t have any tactical knowhow!! A lot of his tactical decisions are perplexing!! We obviously need to play 442!! To our strengths which is attacking!! We don’t play 433 we actually play 451!!
Thank you wenger I appreciate how far u’v taken us! But you seem far too stubburn to take us any further! And I don’t see that changing!!
its really simple to place, the whole club doesn’t want to do well despite the fact that the whole scenario plays before their very eyes. i remember a time when redknapp said we were conceding the league to manure. it is just bent on the fact that arsene and his boys lack the winning mentality to pursue these kinda of objectives. The only therapeutic option i would give or if i am allowed to run the finances of the club for the month of august would be
1. sack all the goalkeepers coaches
2. sack the psychologists
3. sack the physios
4. sell bendtner and vela, combine their sales and buy eto’o
5. sell diaby and denilson/ exchange them for felipe melo
6. sell fabregas and buy arteta
7. buy either coentrao or per mertesacker/samba/cahill
8. buy stekelenburg/
9. loan chamakh to bolton
Both Arsene and the clubs priorities are obviously not in the game. Its clear(to me anyway) that the business and financial side has taken the front seat. But I don’t put all the blame on arsene as he is performing dual roles. Being manager of the team and being director of the club. This is very difficult. Selecting tactics,scouting,transfers, protecting players as well as increasing turnover, and securing its future.
Not even mourinho could do what arsene has done which is always ensuring a top four finish whilst ensuring the club is financially stable. Look at Liverpool, they are in a worse position than us and have spent a considerable amount more. In my opinion there could only of been two outcomes. The first is we spent alot of money on the best players in their peak and won EVERYTHING for five years, everyones happy but soon these players started to get old/injured and have poor resale value (ballack,shevchenko,deco at chelsea) we cannot afford new players, we start to fall into serious debt and cannot keep up with payments, no rich bastard will buy us so we fall into adminstation thus getting relegated. or the second is what is transpiring now.
Red face, The twitch, even our previous managers had individual roles whereas they only dealt with the team. Everything else is someone else’s job. If we did kick wenger out and got the best manager possible he would also struggle to win the league under these circumstances, whilst the world would be fighting to sign the manager we deemed not good enough.
I have been saying from day one that Arsenal are a stone’s throw away from being world beaters. THREE ….just THREE things the club need to do to achieve this. 1) Let Arsene focus solely on team issues. 2) Make bergkamp number 2 and finally and most importantly 3) The board must make winning trophies a priority by giving the boss funds to by the best players in the world whilst also making it clear to wenger that his job is not as safe as it once was. £50 million on transfers a season would really do wonders. Considering we get £250 million a season on match day revenue alone.
I’m afraid AW has lost the plot, why did he not play 2 upfront we ware at home playing a team at bottom of the league. It looks like he doesn’t know how to defend and now how to attack, its time for him to move upstairs or go.
I like to raise my hat to the 60,000 fans who booed the team off after the game. That ought to show the french wanker that the fans are not happy. All this while, he has been too comfortable because the AKB wankers will swallow whatever he dishes out.
Can anyone really say they were surprised at yesterdays result? same old same old!!! The AKBs can bang on about all the pro Arsene propaganda but at the end of the day they know its all spin!!! The glaringly obvious cannot be ignored forever!!! ARSENAL THE CLUB not Arsene the manager or the board ITS ARSENAL THE CLUB I LOVE DO YOU? !!!!! Time to be a big a BIG CLUB and stop fuckin about!! always and forever a GOONER!!!!!!
arsene cares more for the players than for the club…if he respceted the club some players would never wear our kit and put their feet on the emirates turf cause they are not up to the Arsenal standard!
Wenger has well and truly lost the plot. His time has come, he needs to move on or be forced to move on. His long running experiment has failed and has spectacularly blown up in his face.
We were in the running for four trophies in January, surely that was the time to strengthen the squad. Bring in the defender and defensive midfielder we all knew we needed and things could’ve so different. Arsene knows best? Do me a favour. The AKB brigade need to stop living in cloud cuckoo land and face up to the reality of the situation we now find ourselves in. We are in real danger of missing out on 2nd but Wenger won’t mind, as long as we qualify for the Champions League he’ll continue with his current philosophy. AKB? More like AKFA.
I’ve been a loyal Arsenal fan for well over 30 years and have been a season ticket holder for over 20 of those years. I am seriously considering not renewing my season ticket for next season, especially in light of the rise in ticket prices. Us fans are having to foot the bill for players inflated wages for absolutely no return. What other industry rewards failure by their employees?
Performances like yesterday’s are not acceptable. We are THE ARSENAL for f*** sake! We shouldn’t have to put up with second best and unless the manager and some of his precious players wake up from their slumber and understand what it means to represent OUR club, they should get out before they do any more damage.
Clueless, stubborn, tactically deficient and parsimonious to the nth degree…who will rid me of this man called Wenger?
If you want to keep up when sticking to a job for a long time, you need to have the ability to change focus to keep the inspiration. I thnk Wenger doesn’t have that in him, and since there is no inspiration, it affects the players. I really didn’t think I would ever say this, but if Wenger doesn’t start listsening, he should get out.
PaulK says:
April 3, 2011 at 8:29 am
I don’t get it. The players, formations, morale, manager and club management are all terrible. The manager just has to go. Yet we’re in second?!?! It doesn’t add up.
Until just recently Arshavin was part of the problem, pathetic and just had to go. Now the manager’s an idiot for realizing he’s the best player on the team.
Mourinho would require a huge contract plus he only goes to teams if the purse strings are opened up. Do we pay for it with debt or raising ticket prices?
Enough criticizing and booing the players, managers and club. If you fire Wenger in disgrace who should we hire as a replacement?….. How about one of you? You’re brimming with confidence. The tactics and good/bad players are so obvious to you. Why don’t you apply? They’re bound to see how blindingly obvious your conclusions are and implement them immediately. Being a Premier League manager is actually very easy. Even a complete moron manager with clearly inadequate players can stumble into winning the League. Coming 2nd in the League is not only shameful but you’ve got to be a complete to do it. That’s why we need one of you know-it-alls who proudly boos the team.
Let us pledge to become fair weather “supporters”, like many at Man U and Chelsea. We’re the only 3 teams that won the League multiple times. We need to embrace the mentality that we’ll only support the club when they win. 2nd in the League is pathetic. We should boo the team heartedly feeling proud of ourselves and righteous when they draw. We can threaten that we’ll no longer follow the team and might switch our support to one of the only other two teams who have more recent success. Choosing another team that is winning and jumping on the bandwagon is appealing as we just want to win and not support. Supporting your team is for losers.
i think its also time to get rid of the board and get Alisher Usmanov in at least he is willing to spend on new players
The scary thing is Wenger has been talking shvt about building this team for 5 years and yet even now, Ferguson’s worst team to win a championship (which seems inevitable) has too much balls and know how for Arsene’s sissy boy bottlers.
It’s pathetic if it wasn’t so incredible that a ONCE GREAT manager has sunk to such sad levels as Arsene Wenger. He is as much part of the problem now as any player.
PaulK you make some good points. But the simple fact is these errors which lead to us being second when we clearly DO have a gifted team and the other big sides in the league have done their best all season to throw it away, we are the ones who should have been in pole position this season. After so many years patiently waiting for the Wenger experiment to start to bare fruit I think most fans are rightfully resentful that when he got us so close, he then proceeded to cripple us with his parsimony and tactical inhibition.
Some obvious problems that arise every season around Feb March.
1 Goalkeeper is rubbish and/or injury prone.
2 Not enough quality central defenders.
3 Overplays fullbacks until they drop.
4 Defensive midfielder overplayed with no decent back-up.
5 Strikers stop scoring when the midfield ceases to function as key players are injured/exhausted.
6 Energy levels drop as team starts to drop out of competitions instead of giving them more energy.
7 Tactical play which is needed when team is not funtioning is completely absent. No ability to change things during the game, no ability to motivate from the sideline, and no representative on the pitch who is willing to die for the cause.
Has been this way since his golden generation passed into club folklore. No fight, no mental strength (despite him obviously having a bet with someone as to how many times he can mention it in every interview) and simply put the energy required to play our style of football is not efficient (another buzz word). The team don’t know how to shut up shop and when they try they give up 4 goal leads. So we reach late Feb early March and there’s nothing left in the tank. Or if there is it’s sat injured on the touchline.
He has to change the style of play when required and he has to teach his team how to defend efficiently. But most damningly he has to respect his opponent. He claims to but he doesn’t. No one can ignore the strengths of the opposition and claim to respect them. He says it doesn’t matter what they do if we play our game. I respectfully say he’s an idiot, and his mindset has worked its way into his teams ethos. They think they deserve to win and it’s just a matter of time. No Arsene it’s not. It’s up to them to win not just sit around passively and await the “inevitable”.
I used to be an Arsenal fan and I switch to support Barcelona when Henry left. Couple years ago,I urge Arsenal fans stop buying any Arsenal products and leave all the seats empty at the Emirates until Wenger buy a real goal keeper with the quality to play in the Premier League and four quality center backs.
I was making comments about 4 months ago that Arsenal is not going to win anything this season and it looks like it. Even though if Arsenal is lucky to be the Champion, I still don’t have any respect to the team since they can’t even beat West Brom, New Castle,etc. Does Arsenal deserve to be the Champion?
Arsenal fans, please help Arsenal by showing an empty seats at the Emirates and Almunia please resign!
Yet another frustrating performace from players who simply do not associate with the passion normally applied with wearing the red jersey. This is quite painful for the old skool gooners to see. Yes Arsene has done a brilliant job – but the number of points we have dropped this season against real mediocrity has been amazing. We used to score for fun, in every game. Yesterday, I asked someone the score as I did not go to the match – he said we were lucky to have NIL!
4-5-1 can and does work for us. But recently, when that formation has not worked Arsene has to mix it up a bit. The tactics at yesterdays game were awful – the substitutions quite shocking in terms of what he did with the.
I looked at the 2010-2011 season team picture to remind myself who we have and the following from the front row of that squad picture all needs to be got shot of:
Denilson
Diaby
Arshavin
Almunia
Fabregas [truly gifted when he wants to be - but he clearly wants off so he can F/off]
Schillaci
Bentner
I would say that Messrs Rice and Bora should join them too.
We need a new manager, let wenger coach our youth team at our academy, he is obsess with young players right? 6 years of fake promises and going nowhere, enough said!!!!
I do not have any problem wth the players (mediocres would remain mediocres no matter the “faith” you have in them) but so much with te stubborn Arsene. It was obvious as far back as December that the team would not win yet he kept from buying. You can not eat your cake and have it, coaches that are sing money to buy are not fools, it is Arsene that seems to be. One for one – from Van Deser to Fabio – which Arsene player can compare to any when it comes to guts, confidence and grinding out result.
Arsene is about making money for the club and protecting the mostly mediocre players and not about winning or thinking about fans who wants trophy or suffer in the hands of the rival club fans.
Arsene has had his time, he’s been great for us but he obviously cannot motivate the players. Get Owen Coyle in and quick!
I feel proper gutted about the situation at present, i wish wenger would have spent and strengthened the squad as we are clearly not as strong as 2 years ago (No Ade, no toure, no gallas, no gilberto etc).
But i going to piss alot of people of by saying my heart says give him 2 more years as i feel we are very close. Wenger is no fool and lets hope he now knows his squad is not good enough.
I feel for what he has done for the club and how his dream and previous ambition has turned us into semi giants rather than being the size of spuds like we used to be, he deserves abit more respect and time. If nothing in 2 years, then yes get rid of him.
I don’t know why everyone seems so confident that Man utd will surely wrap up the title in the next few weeks. Believe it or not but the few coming weeks will be disastrous to them and here I’m hoping so. I also hope our team picks it up and start winning again but sadly there isn’t enough backing and support, we are by far the most negative fans of any club and as I remember from yesterday we all were very anxious before the game, imagine the players. This chronic negativity is the barrier between our club and success, there is no BELIEF whatsoever, before it even happens we know for sure the “inevitable” will happen, how about we be good supporters? Yesterday obviously Theo and Cesc were lacking match fitness, Nasri got assaulted early on and the game after that slowed down otherwise we were playing with a good tempo and some sharpness. RVP, Sagna…. were still feeling the effects of the internationals. There is still hope!
To be honest Wenger is not a tactician tho’ many of damn in Wenger we trust will not take it. Wenger never won any trophy 4 Arsenal but Vieira & his lion heart team mates does. The last trophy we won was when Vieira was there but Wenger!!! Imagine year in year out he always let lady luck take care of it. Wenger don’t even know how to prepare his kid mentally or pressure them to fight like a big boys. When Viera was there we were labble king of comeback bt now what?! We can’t handle pressure & when it come,we simply submit to it & bow down like stupid.. We need a change of board, we need another manager or take back Viera as an assistant manager.
Sing Jose Mourinho name all game from the next home game til Wengers gone!
That would surely piss him off!
And if we are lucky me might get him
hi, i am from kenya and have been following arsenal since i knew what football was, its really hard for us gunner fans here in kenya to witness our beloved club fall like this, and its all wengers fault, its high time he should go or the board to decide weather to buy players or not, wengers stubbornness has caused us games and titkes for the past six yrs and counting.
its now up to fans in london who go and watch the game to boycott and stand up for the team, remember slogans like “scolari must go” in those Chelsea times?????? its up to the fans now.
wish i was there to do so.
but we in africa want wenger out.
Wenger is trying to prove that he can win without spending exorbitant amounts in the transfer window. He tries finds these noname players and acts as if hes found a dimond in the rough. Hes done it before with Henry and other players but I believe its time to wise up. His experiment has failed repreatedly for the past 5 years. I dont want to take anything away from what he has done. Qualifying for the champions league, comming in the top 4 every year, the undefeated season are all amazing feats. If you spend the money (ecpecially when its there to spend) you will see returns. Arsenal are a world class orginization but they need to find that healthy balance between youth and experience that we are lacking.
-Go gunners
Hello I’m from Alaska, I’ve been supporting Arsenal since i was an embryo. We in Alaska want Wenger to go, it’s all his fault. I want the board to go as well, they’re also at fault. I want Bill gates to take over, he is rich. Oh yeah, boycot Arsenal as well and if you have to go just booh the team every time they touch the ball. I hope they lose, that’ll teach them.
Love, john
xxx
Owen Coyle for Wenger some say? jesus christ you people need help if thats your solution. zero throphies, zero european experience for one for one the most expienced and respected managers in the world. seriously like. and some of you could do with showing him a bit more respect. I’m not in the AKB but i’ve been an Arsenal fan for 25 years and i’ve seen things much worse.
Yes things need to change this summer but some of you would abuse and insult the greatest manager in our history to do that. I guarantee you would regret treating him like that years after he’s gone.
Yes we’re all pissed off about whats happened but stop being spoilt babies about it. Boycotting games, booing the team every time they touch the ball, hoping they lose? I’m sorry but anyone who can even think like that is not an Arsenal fan in my eyes.