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Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Zickar » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:05 pm

Can Arsenal survive without Cesc Fabregas?

According to statistics and the table, the Premier League title is a three horse race between Chelsea , Manchester United , and Arsenal .However, the vast majority of football fans don't really expect the third team mentioned above to mount a very serious challenge for the title come the business end of the season.And why's that? Well, Arsenal seem to be too reliant on a certain individual who is unfortunately sidelined at the moment with a hamstring injury.

Despite their 4-1 win at Portsmouth , it appears that the Gunners are indeed becoming too reliant on their captain, Spanish superstar Cesc Fabregas . They may have emerged victorious down at Fratton Park, but for the most part they seemed to lack a real leader on the pitch, and, in any case, were playing against a less than difficult opposition.
After all, Portsmouth are bottom of the table and their players have probably been affected by the news of the club being served with a winding-up petition by HM Revenues and Customs.

Also, Pompey like to play with an attacking style of football, meaning if the opposing players have any decent skill at elite level, they can rip apart their counterpart's defence with considerable ease.And in Portsmouth on Wednesday, Arsenal got through the match with skill and good technical ability.Skill and technical ability are all well and good against lower ranked teams, but against the "big boys," like any other successful team, the Gunners need to be callous in their approach; something which they were not on Wednesday night.Put Fabregas in the team however, and the Gunners suddenly transform into a team that maintains all the skill and ability, but also have a ruthlessness about them, which means they can beat off opponents and shut out games.Against Portsmouth, Arsenal took the lead thanks to a rather fortuitous goal, and even after going up 3-0, they couldn't really shut out the game, leading Nadir Belhaj to score for the home side and give them some sort of hope.

One can only think that if they were up against a better team who could actually work as a team and have players with good skill and intelligence (unlike Portsmouth), then they would most likely struggle to win or even draw against their opponents.For example, against Aston Villa at the Emirates Stadium, Arsenal never seriously looked like scoring until their captain came on and stole the show with two goals to rescue his side from a tame 0-0 draw or, rather more likely, a 1-0 or 2-0 defeat.It can be argued that all the top sides have one or two star players who have the most impact on the team, such as Didier Drogba at Chelsea or Wayne Rooney at Manchester United.However, Chelsea also have Nicolas Anelka up front who can cause just as much damage to opposing defences as their big Ivorian striker.And as for Manchester United, the stats prove that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise the Red Devils can quite easily cope without their talisman striker.

Unlike the aforementioned teams and players, Fabregas is the one true leader at Arsenal, and without him, his team crumbles against decent opposition.If Fabregas doesn't play in the big matches against big teams, then the Gunners won't be winning a lot of those key games.And if they don't win many of them, then one thing is for certain: they won't be winning the 2009/10 Premier League title.



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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Deano » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:12 pm

Are you sure this wasn't meant to be a passage for the purpose of a game of 'count the cliche' Zickar?

Cliches aside - and this piece of article covers about 98% of them - it all could have been written in one sentence.

"Arsenal are a better side with Fabregas and Portsmouth are ". Amazingly, the twat is spot on
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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Gunner_X5 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:08 pm

I'm more worried with the injury to Rvp for the WHOLE SEASON, than being without cesc for 3 games. Granted we do rely on him abit, but this is no different to Man U (Rooney, Gigs, and formerly Ronaldo) and Chelsea (Terry, Lampard, Drogba) and definatly Liverpool (Gerrard, Torres).
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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by ArsenalZeBest » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:55 pm

Why wouldn't we be reliant on RVP and Cesc i mean they are world-class players and they should be depended on by the team to deliver. But yes i must agree that we need replacements for them and to be honest the only thing we can do is sign some EXP players which i doubt we will.

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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Zickar » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:32 pm

Well the article contradicts itself when saying "It can be argued that all the top sides have one or two star players who have the most impact on the team, such as Didier Drogba at Chelsea or Wayne Rooney at Manchester United.However, Chelsea also have Nicolas Anelka up front who can cause just as much damage to opposing defences as their big Ivorian striker.And as for Manchester United, the stats prove that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise the Red Devils can quite easily cope without their talisman striker." ... We are doing this every game .. We seem too dependent on Cesc (or used to ) Because all our top players were always out , Nasri was injured for a hefty portion of the season , RVP is injured , Nick was Injured , Dudu was Injured , Theo was Injured , On our day we have many solutions but what can you do when all these players are injured ? Depend on a fit and talented player like Cesc , Now Cesc is injured and we have managed to win against Hull , Against Westham too and these were tough games ... We could win with or withought Cesc if the team keep this spirit
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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by damir » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:43 am

Real is interested in Cesc,that's an old news,but according to Marca,Wenger is interested in swap Higuain-Cesc!Higuain's price is 35 mil.

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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Curt.B » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:01 pm

We are doing just fine. Stupid article, look at the points ont he table, whoever wrote it.

Besides, he has been infrequently available in recent weeks and we have been doing well enough.

All Arsenal fans can have great pride in the team at the moment. If you remember, Ancelotti said that this season was a battle between Chelsea and Man U.

He's taken a cannon shot in the ass over that call, and I am proud to be a Gooner, considering the way we have been playing in recent weeks.

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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by stevedon » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:35 pm

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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Sp1r0r » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:00 pm

Lacked creativity today with Cesc. Ramsey didnt manage to reproduce his best form and I thought when at least Rosicky came on, he would change things which he didnt except for his goal.

All our creative players all need to play on the flanks (Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin) as there is noone like Fabregas who has a great touch and can find a pass like he can. Another thing that Fabregas does not get enough praise for is his work ethic.

He nearly always runs his socks off every game and thats where his goals have come from, runs from midfield which pull defenders and open up space or neat passing which ends up in a goal.

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Re: Arsenal too reliant on Cesc

by Zickar » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:18 am

Sp1r0r wrote:Lacked creativity today with Cesc. Ramsey didnt manage to reproduce his best form and I thought when at least Rosicky came on, he would change things which he didnt except for his goal.

All our creative players all need to play on the flanks (Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin) as there is noone like Fabregas who has a great touch and can find a pass like he can. Another thing that Fabregas does not get enough praise for is his work ethic.

He nearly always runs his socks off every game and thats where his goals have come from, runs from midfield which pull defenders and open up space or neat passing which ends up in a goal.


I think we really played well and everyone played a hard game and earned their right to play , they fought till the last minute , Sure Fabregas' presence might have changed things but there were many games when his presence didn't change anything . It was just one of those games that we couldn't win although I think we could have if we snapped into full gear earlier , Rosicky blasted the whole side into life when he came on and I think he might have had to come on earlier , Wenger should really use the pacey players like Vela more too , he should drop down early in the game aroiund 60 mins or so when the opposition starts to wear down
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