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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by Reddaz » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:24 pm

liri wrote:why do we care so much about their personal life?


EXACTLY! I didn't realise it was in the job description of England captain to be a good husband. jeeez.

Whatever happens behind close doors should stay behind close doors. I can't beleive someone having an affair is top headline news. Who bloody cares. Kate Moss was snapped taking cocaine in a national newspaper, did she lose her job as a role model to young girls ? Did she f##k. She has more responsibilty then Terry imo, she is in all those kids magazines e.t.c

If somebody does something in their personal life it shoudn't effect your job. Unless obviously they commit a crime.
Did Terry commit a crime? No. Did Kate Moss commit a crime? Yes. So why is Terry being punished and Kate wasn't.
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by Kerr345 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:27 pm

He should have been stripped because he's an ass. Adultery makes you a dick and you deserve any bad that comes your way.

But Terry deserved it before anyway, so I get the anger with this now only mattering.
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by Curt.B » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:15 pm

EXACTLY! I didn't realise it was in the job description of England captain to be a good husband. jeeez.


If you cheat on your wife with a fellow team-mate you should be more than stripped of the captaincy, you should be flogged. It transcends personal life and is a simply horrible reflection of the moral calibre of you as a man; how the hell could his players respect him if e does that to them behind their backs?
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by Deano » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:41 pm

Curt.B wrote:
EXACTLY! I didn't realise it was in the job description of England captain to be a good husband. jeeez.


If you cheat on your wife with a fellow team-mate you should be more than stripped of the captaincy, you should be flogged. It transcends personal life and is a simply horrible reflection of the moral calibre of you as a man; how the hell could his players respect him if e does that to them behind their backs?


Precisely.

We probably wont hear about it - but he'll have lost alot of respect in that dressing room. Keeping someone as the captain of the national team after he gets caught commiting such moral atrocities would more or less condone his behaviour.

He doesn't work in an office, or wash cars for a living - he's the captain of ENGLAND.

It's one of those situations where people will have an opinion regardless of his punishment.

Terry keeps the armband, and people around the world say "Look at the English and the way they let their captain behave"

He loses the armband and the same people say "What is it with the press in England? What has Terry done so wrong?"

If people can't understand that keeping him on as captain could very well be detrimental to the team spirit and social dynamics of the squad, then I'm at a complete loss.
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by liri » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:48 pm

cerbera wrote:
liri wrote:why do we care so much about their personal life?

Good F##king question. It pisses me off how much attention players get just because they're English. This happens in other places in the world and nothing is made of it. The English media makes a big deal out of everything English players do. Regular people have affairs on a daily basis and they don't lose their jobs or get demoted at work for it. This has absolutely no effect on the football they're playing so I don't see why he should be stripped of the captaincy.

Now some may say he should set an example and whatever...well if that's the case all footballers should be punished for their nightly activities. The excessive partying, the drinking, the smok!ng, the promiscuous sexual behaviour. None of it sets a good example so why should this be singled out for punishment?

This is exactly why I hope England crash and burn at the World Cup. Too much regard is being given to this team.


its not only english, see how media fucked up Tiger Woods career.
Personally, i do not give a about their personal life, as long as they are good players i like them.
John Terry should be an example for the rest of english players on the field not outside of the field.

Curt.B wrote:
EXACTLY! I didn't realise it was in the job description of England captain to be a good husband. jeeez.


If you cheat on your wife with a fellow team-mate you should be more than stripped of the captaincy, you should be flogged. It transcends personal life and is a simply horrible reflection of the moral calibre of you as a man; how the hell could his players respect him if e does that to them behind their backs?


All english people should be proud of him. At least he is a PIMP
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by cerbera » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:09 pm

liri wrote:its not only english, see how media fucked up Tiger Woods career.
Personally, i do not give a about their personal life, as long as they are good players i like them.
John Terry should be an example for the rest of english players on the field not outside of the field.

I think there's a difference there though. Tiger Woods was always seen as the poster boy of sports. The modest, handsome, wholesome athlete that everyone should strive to be like and there was some level of envy of his success and they were waiting for him to mess up so they could have a field day with it. That whole hype was created out of envy.

Terry on the other hand, like every other player on the England team has everything he does highlighted by the media. They feel we have a right to know everything that happens when we don't. Just look at the last time they went to the World Cup. They had reports on where they stayed, what they did, what dresses their wags bought and what songs they sang at karaoke. Who gives a f##k really? What makes them so special?

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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by Deano » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:40 pm

Nothing makes them 'special', Cerbera. Gossip sells papers all over the world. If you have big stars, it's sells big. It's a supply and demand business, however silly or intrusive we think it may be.

Take Avram Grant for example. He wasn't hurting anybody and it turns out his wife couldn't give a toss, but that story got me thinking and I wanted to know who the whore monger was. The law also saw fit in the end to allow the expose. There's a market for all sorts of gossip. What I'm not interested in, I don't read.
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by cerbera » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:46 pm

Deano wrote:Nothing makes them 'special', Cerbera. Gossip sells papers all over the world. If you have big stars, it's sells big. It's a supply and demand business, however silly or intrusive we think it may be.

Take Avram Grant for example. He wasn't hurting anybody and it turns out his wife couldn't give a toss, but that story got me thinking and I wanted to know who the whore monger was. The law also saw fit in the end to allow the expose. There's a market for all sorts of gossip. What I'm not interested in, I don't read.

Very true but as you said what I'm not interested in I don't read...problem is I'm not interested in it and it's still in my face. I don't give a f##k if Terry got the French bitch knocked up and gave birth to a baby with an arm coming out the forehead but whenever you watch football games even the commentators go on and on about it. You watch pre and post game shows...there it is...all over blogs, everywhere on the internet. You can't escape it. You have no choice.

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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by liri » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:36 pm

cerbera wrote:
liri wrote:its not only english, see how media fucked up Tiger Woods career.
Personally, i do not give a about their personal life, as long as they are good players i like them.
John Terry should be an example for the rest of english players on the field not outside of the field.

I think there's a difference there though. Tiger Woods was always seen as the poster boy of sports. The modest, handsome, wholesome athlete that everyone should strive to be like and there was some level of envy of his success and they were waiting for him to mess up so they could have a field day with it. That whole hype was created out of envy.

Terry on the other hand, like every other player on the England team has everything he does highlighted by the media. They feel we have a right to know everything that happens when we don't. Just look at the last time they went to the World Cup. They had reports on where they stayed, what they did, what dresses their wags bought and what songs they sang at karaoke. Who gives a f##k really? What makes them so special?


All sports are business, and the players are businessmen.
According to business media communication (the class that i just finished few weeks ago) says that you need to talk to public if you are in the center of the attention. You do not react late, you have to talk and wait for feed back.
Terry did a mistake by not going public immediately, and the best thing for the business is to say "I am sorry, i am just another human being who did a mistake". Terry did a mistake by replying that it was his own private life.

I, personally do not care about his personal life, but many many low level educated peope care about famous people private life. Expectations are that he should be perfect because he is captain of england national team.

f##k that, if i were an englishman, i would have been proud of him lol.
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Re: John Terry stripped of England captaincy by Capello

by cerbera » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:43 pm

liri wrote:
cerbera wrote:
liri wrote:its not only english, see how media fucked up Tiger Woods career.
Personally, i do not give a about their personal life, as long as they are good players i like them.
John Terry should be an example for the rest of english players on the field not outside of the field.

I think there's a difference there though. Tiger Woods was always seen as the poster boy of sports. The modest, handsome, wholesome athlete that everyone should strive to be like and there was some level of envy of his success and they were waiting for him to mess up so they could have a field day with it. That whole hype was created out of envy.

Terry on the other hand, like every other player on the England team has everything he does highlighted by the media. They feel we have a right to know everything that happens when we don't. Just look at the last time they went to the World Cup. They had reports on where they stayed, what they did, what dresses their wags bought and what songs they sang at karaoke. Who gives a f##k really? What makes them so special?


All sports are business, and the players are businessmen.
According to business media communication (the class that i just finished few weeks ago) says that you need to talk to public if you are in the center of the attention. You do not react late, you have to talk and wait for feed back.
Terry did a mistake by not going public immediately, and the best thing for the business is to say "I am sorry, i am just another human being who did a mistake". Terry did a mistake by replying that it was his own private life.

No he had no need to say anything or apologise to anyone but Wayne Bridge. What he does on his time is no one's business but his own. We don't need to know about it. He has no obligation to notify us of anything he does off the pitch that isn't related to football. As Reddaz said yesterday, when did being a the England captain require you to be a good husband?

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