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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by damir » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:06 pm

if he wants from fans to trust him than he should listen more,not ignore them even if he doesn't like what they have to say,he should stop acting like a despot who is distanced center of power and who wont come down from his throne between ordinary people and listen their problems!fans have right to demand things,I am not demanding his resignation,I demand him to listen more
I said it before and I will repeat that 100 times,the club can't change fans but eventually it can change a manager
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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by Deano » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:38 pm

damir wrote:if he wants from fans to trust him than he should listen more,not ignore them even if he doesn't like what they have to say,he should stop acting like a despot who is distanced center of power and who wont come down from his throne between ordinary people and listen their problems!fans have right to demand things,I am not demanding his resignation,I demand him to listen more
I said it before and I will repeat that 100 times,the club can't change fans but eventually it can change a manager


Wrong thread, Damir!

When our manager who gets paid £5m a year starts listening and acting on what the fans want him to do, I will personally remove Wenger from his office myself. He's not paid to listen to numb-nuts-know-f##k-all, Johnny-jus' come- fans.
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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by cerbera » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:44 pm

Deano wrote:
damir wrote:if he wants from fans to trust him than he should listen more,not ignore them even if he doesn't like what they have to say,he should stop acting like a despot who is distanced center of power and who wont come down from his throne between ordinary people and listen their problems!fans have right to demand things,I am not demanding his resignation,I demand him to listen more
I said it before and I will repeat that 100 times,the club can't change fans but eventually it can change a manager


Wrong thread, Damir!

When our manager who gets paid £5m a year starts listening and acting on what the fans want him to do, I will personally remove Wenger from his office myself. He's not paid to listen to numb-nuts-know-f##k-all, Johnny-jus' come- fans.

He was replying to the stuff on the previous page lol.

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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by Deano » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:45 pm

cerbera wrote:
ARSHAVIN! wrote:Now here is a useful player for us to get...........

I don't get how you make Wenger out to be so infallible yet you're saying we need this player. Isn't the current squad Wenger built good enough? If you trust him so much, as your signature says then you should trust his decision to not sign a striker last month too. It means we don't need a striker because Wenger said so by not signing one. So why are you now going against Wenger in saying we need one? Isn't that a lack of trust on your part?


That's not entirely fair, is it?

There are things that I'd like to see Wenger do, try, or players I'd like him to sign if I may be so selfish and dare to dream!

It doesn't mean ARSHAVIN or myself do not trust Wenger overall! We aren't robots, as the 'Wenger out' zombies will have you believe. We're flexible and broad-minded, we are
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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by cerbera » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:46 pm

Deano wrote:
cerbera wrote:
ARSHAVIN! wrote:Now here is a useful player for us to get...........

I don't get how you make Wenger out to be so infallible yet you're saying we need this player. Isn't the current squad Wenger built good enough? If you trust him so much, as your signature says then you should trust his decision to not sign a striker last month too. It means we don't need a striker because Wenger said so by not signing one. So why are you now going against Wenger in saying we need one? Isn't that a lack of trust on your part?


That's not entirely fair, is it?

There are things that I'd like to see Wenger do, try, or players I'd like him to sign if I may be so selfish and dare to dream!

It doesn't mean ARSHAVIN or myself do not trust Wenger overall! We aren't robots, as the 'Wenger out' zombies will have you believe. We're flexible and broad-minded, we are

Yeah you are but you clearly haven't seen all of ARSHAVIN's posts on here have you lol

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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by Deano » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:57 pm

I know he's a bit of a loose cannon/gunner (rear sometimes).

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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by ARSHAVIN! » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:15 pm

Deano's right! You can trust in Wenger but it is still OK to give advice isnt it? Hell, its not even giving advice, its just speculating or imaging which players we could have at our club. Are you suggesting that I trust Wenger so much that I do not think he should or will sign a single player, that I cannot talk about transfers as that would mean betraying the manager? That I think he should leave the squad as it is and see what happends? Of course thats not the case. Wenger is a good manager but I still imagine that we need another striker at our club to progress at the moment. As Santa Cruz would be relatively cheap, I'd consider him an option.

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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by cerbera » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:18 pm

ARSHAVIN! wrote:Deano's right! You can trust in Wenger but it is still OK to give advice isnt it? Hell, its not even giving advice, its just speculating or imaging which players we could have at our club. Are you suggesting that I trust Wenger so much that I do not think he should or will sign a single player, that I cannot talk about transfers as that would mean betraying the manager? That I think he should leave the squad as it is and see what happends? Of course thats not the case. Wenger is a good manager but I still imagine that we need another striker at our club to progress at the moment. As Santa Cruz would be relatively cheap, I'd consider him an option.

I may be a loose cannon but I'm still open minded

But Wenger doesn't believe we need a striker. If you believed in Wenger as much as you say and as much as you want us to then doesn't it mean we should believe in exactly what Wenger believes? After all, you always say Arsene Knows and we should trust in Arsene. If his way is the right way then everything else has to be wrong. Therefore if he thinks we don't need a striker, speculating on what strikers we need is rendered wrong and distrusting.

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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by ARSHAVIN! » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:31 pm

So I think speculation is disgusting? Unhealthy? Wow, I am one crazy, loyal supporter who has incredibly set principles then. I have never met a fan who is trust the manager so much that he is not even able to speculate or imagine possible transfers.The point is though at the end of the day is Mr. Wenger going to listen to our advice? Of course not, he is only interested with his own targets, not ours. Therefore to speculate is fine, Wenger doesn't care
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Re: Roque Santa Cruz

by cerbera » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:33 pm

ARSHAVIN! wrote:So I think speculation is disgusting? Unhealthy? Wow, I am one crazy, loyal supporter who has incredibly set principles then. I have never met a fan who is trust the manager so much that he is not even able to speculate or imagine possible transfers.The point is though at the end of the day is Mr. Wenger going to listen to our advice? Of course not, he is only interested with his own targets, not ours. Therefore to speculate is fine, Wenger doesn't care

You said it's a player we should get. I mean, I remember when there was speculation we were gonna sign Silvestre I spoke about it but it never meant I thought we should get him. A speculation is different from saying it's a player we should get. A few months back when I was mentioning Wenger's flaws you told me I'm wrong to ever question Wenger. Suggesting there's a player out there we need, when Wenger disagrees, is doing the same thing but okay...

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