Well I think you can though. When other players around you hold you down. Coloccini's proven he's good before going to Newcastle and I hope they haven't sullied his reputation now.

Its been a summer clear out. But i didnt expect toure to leave.

How is it a summer clearout? Two players have left, with two coming in (Vermaelen bought, Senderos back from loan) and two coming back from long term injury (Eduardo, Rosicky). That's adding players.

First of all, ROSICKY AND EDUARDO ARE NOT ADDITIONS TO THE SQUAD. f##k sake, I hate it when people say this. It's like saying that now Nasri is injured we've sold a player, IT'S NOT TRUE!

Secondly, Toure and Adebayor were two, in my opinion, essential first team players. Vermaelen, despite not being far enough into his Arsenal career to judge, has NO experience in the Premiership. Senderos is nowhere near ready for the first team.

Let's also not forget that the squad last year wasn't even strong enough, so we have to make REAL additions to the squad to even think about competing.

Very simply, if you did not have a player last year but now do, he's a new addition to your team.

Toure was inconsistent and past it, man. I'll always like him, but Gallas was by far the better CB and Djourou, Senderos, and Vermaelen are at or above Toure's usefulness for the club.
Ade's goal haul can be replaced, as well as his hold up play he showed last year. The team now may be reliant on potential, but its nowhere near the disaster people try to make it out to be.

Very simply, I have no idea what world you and Arsene Wenger appear to be living in. If your theory is anything to go by, than our squad is not bigger than it was last year. This is due to the fact that, in short, Rosicky is now injured again and so is Nasri.


I will never accept the fact that losing Kolo Toure means that we are only losing his ability. In selling Toure, we lost our most loyal player, we lost our most aggressive player, and we lost the player with the most determination. In selling Kolo we sold our Captain – Fabregas wearing the armband, to me, is irrelevant.


LOL! Wow, how old are you, 12? That has got to be the most naïve/ignorant thing I have ever read on any forum whatsoever. Not only are Djourou and Senderos WAY too young to even be compared to Toure, but you even had the audacity to put Vermaelen, a player that has never played in the Premiership ABOVE Kolo Toure and his dispensability with Arsenal.


Forget the amount of goal Adebayor scored. In fact, even forget Adebayor overall. The fact is, he was a 6ft 4 striker, which means that we would either have to replace him with a tall, physical striker to maintain the same general mentality, or huge change all of our tactics in the small time of about 3 weeks.

Agree with you TG49

I also hate it when people say that Rosicky and Eduardo are like new signings

We have lost Toure and Adebayor, Plus im sure we will lose Eboue and Senderos

Ya, except for the fact they aren't going to be missing for the entire season. It's not a new or stupid concept. If you didn't have a player last year, but now do, he is an addition to the squad.

Loyalty=/=helpful on the pitch. I love the guy, but he isn't what is needed at Arsenal. Selling him for 15m helps the club more than hurts.
It's funny you call him captain since Gallas, even after losing the armband, still was the man organizing the defense and Almunia was also more involved in the defense. Kolo leads by example, but he didn't set a good one last year.

I'm not the one insulting the other person.

Youth doesn't have to do with it. They are inexperienced compared to him, but they inexperienced compared to Silvestre as well. There's a balance between playing ability and experience. Toure had a lot of the latter but lacked the former since the ANC.

Yes, I do. Because he's what's needed. He has aerial ability, like Senderos and Djourou, which is more important to the current team. Toure is the same player as Gallas. They need someone who can command the air so they can focus on the ground play. Senderos, Vermaelen, and Djourou can command the air, which makes them more useful for the spot next to Gallas.


Which is potentially Bendtner.

A tall striker isn't needed in Wenger's system. You can see that with Van Persie when he was playing alone up front.

Just throwing this in there - Bendtner is quite tall and whoever said to sell eduardo is crazy!

We are dealing with Rosicky here, I think you seem to have forgotten that his original injury was described as minor by Arsene Wenger, and we were told that he was going to be out for about a fortnight.

Two years later and here we are.


Organisation is only part of being a Captain, and to be honest, the fact that Kolo Toure made history in the Champions League whilst being partnered by Senderos PROVES that he was more than able to the organizer, and did organize on many occasions.

Kolo leads by example, it is true, but I also feel that he was the most respected player in the squad. I personally feel that Toure should have had the armband even over Gallas, but there you go.


No, but seriously, how old are you? The way you are talking would suggest that you cannot be older than 16 – it just is not possible.


It does when you are in an already young team, and playing at Centre Back in the best and biggest competitions in the world...


Yes... they are also inexperienced compared to my dad, but comparing Silvestre and Toure are two entirely different things.


This is where your naivety shows... HE HAS NOT YET PLAYED A COMPETITIVE GAME FOR ARSENAL, YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT HIM!

I went to caps lock to emphasize importance...


The guy is not even 6ft, and lost plenty of headers two lesser teams such as Barnet. He is a second ball defender, just like Toure and Gallas are.


It is true that Senderos and Djourou command the air, but Senderos simply does not have the right mentality to make it at Arsenal – he had a poor game against Liverpool and had a breakdown. Drogba made him his bitch. I have already explained to you that Vermaelen and his aerial ability are around the same as Kolo, but to be honest, you will just have to wait and see.


Our whole squad will potentially die tomorrow... notice what I did?


It quite clearly is, hence the reason we had Adebayor in the first place, Bendtner on the bench, and look to be signing this Chamakh guy. In fact, playing Van Persie up front alone is disastrous.