Yes, here we are. This doesn't prove my point wrong.

And the fact Gallas is doing it now PROVES Kolo was no longer the organizer.

My age has nothing to do with how I write.

And it helps to have be playing the man who can help the most in the best and biggest competition in the world....

True, as is trying to saying Toure's experience somehow makes up for his shortcomings as a player and the fact he doesn't slot in beside Gallas, who is the only CB with an assured starting spot.


He's played for Ajax. He's captained Ajax. I'll accept that as potential to succeed, as well as the fact he does have aerial ability, as has been said from people who follow the Dutch league.

I liked it.

I agree, Senderos is in put up or get the f##k out territory, but he still is slotting in the position that is needed.

You used hyperbole and a false analogy. Nice.


And before him there was Henry, who isn't at all like Ade.

As seen when Van Persie single-handedly saved the team for a month. Yes, it was horrible.

It does, however, prove your point as unreliable.


Doing it against who? We have not played one competitive game, and just conceded a goal against Athletico Madrid that was solely due to Gallas and his bad positioning.

Nice.


It does, however, alter the way in which you form an opinion.


What?


Firstly, thanks for accepting the fact that you were wrong in comparing Toure to Silvestre... secondly, today proved that it was not necessarily Toure’s fault for a lot of the bad positioning. Let’s not forget how much we missed him when he was at the African Cup Nations, as well as Gallas’ awful positioning today for Madrid’s goal.


Senderos captained Switzerland.

Say no more.


Exactly... notice how we haven’t won anything since Henry left?

Well spotted, son.


Oh yeah, another thing. Wenger also said that Van Persie has NEVER played up front alone. Once again, another great point made.

No. All it proves is Rosicky has injury problems. Doesn't change the fact if he comes back to play this year he's an addition to the squad.

Doing it all last year when he playing.

No. Experience and knowledge affect opinions. Not age.

Toure doesn't help Arsenal the most in the league. Other players who fit the role of aerial control help.

I wasn't. You're saying Toure's experience gives him a pass. It doesn't, like it doesn't give Silvestre a pass. When you're past it, you're past it.

And let's not forget how awful Toure was after the ANC.

Switzerland isn't the same. Not even close.

So why in the hell do we need a tall striker?

That's because Wenger counts second strikers, which isn't what were talking about.

Yes, proving he has injury problems would usually also prove that the chances of him, going by your theory, being sold (LOL), is very likely... therefore meaning an additional winger should be bought.


Yet we still had the worst defensive record out of the top 4?

Nice, good job Gallas!


Yes, generally, the older you are the more experienced you are.

Good one.


I used Toure's experience as ONE attribute regarding what we are losing by selling him. Toure is more experienced WITH Arsenal than anybody you can name (who is still in the squad).


I know... captaining your Nation is a much bigger achievement than captaining a club side.


Second what?

Second strikers?

OK :-)

No. That has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

And somehow Toure gets a pass?

Ya. Doesn't mean I don't have experience because I'm younger than you.

You used it as his greatest trait, which I agree, it is. But 15m is more valuable than that.

Except when that club has the greatest pressure in a country while captaining a small country a few times when other players were gone isn't.

You're right. So you're point about needing a striker who can play alone is bullshit since Arsenal always plays with a second striker.

Good one.

What?

I never once said Toure had a good season, I just said that by selling him we are losing much more than just pure ability. It’s you acting like Gallas is the king of defence.


But to be honest, you really do have a childish naïve mentality. I mean come on, Vermealen better than Toure without even seeing him play?


I disagree. Name me a defender that we can get who:
- Has equal ability to Toure
- Has the same determination
- Loves Arsenal
- Guarenteed chemistry

For £15m.


To be honest, captaining ANY country is a much bigger pressure than captaining Ajax. Ajax are hardly pressured in the League, because they aren’t even expected to win it.


When did I say that we need a striker who can play alone? I said we need a tall striker so that we don’t have to change our entire mentality.

Twisting words, eh?

Poor!

And I believe what is lost is worth 16m.

I said he can be equal, and is plays a more useful style. Well at least that's what I meant


We don't need Toure's ability. What is needed is someone of Campbell's ability. Determination is great except when he constantly gets played out of position, loving Arsenal doesn't make you a good defender, and he had no chemistry with Gallas.

For 15m someone like Naldo can be brought in, who is aerial dominant and experienced.

I'll concede that.

Sorry, messed up your writing.

A tall striker isn't needed. As you said, Arsenal was better with Henry, who doesn't fit that mold.